The legal podcast that helps you make sense of the news.
Liz and Andrew cover a bunch of stories, from the hapless Republican effort to find a Speaker of the House to this week at the Supreme Court & much, much more!
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Liz and Andrew tackle all the stories in the news, from the dysfunctional House of Representatives to the latest developments in Fulton County, Georgia.
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Liz and Andrew welcome back friend of the show Kel McClanahan to break down all of the national security developments in the Trump indictments. Find out what might be coming next in the document retention case….
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Liz and Andrew try to cover all the breaking news of the past two days, including Trump’s civil and criminal trials, good news out of Alabama, and check out the tire tracks on Sidney Powell’s back that seem to spell “Trump.”
Because it’s Listener Friday, the duo answer a question about civil procedure and conflicts of laws that provides the perfect throughline to perhaps the dumbest Rudy Giuliani lawsuit yet. You won’t want to miss it!
Notes
Trump MTD DC
https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.dcd.258149/gov.uscourts.dcd.258149.74.0.pdf
Sidney Powell MTD and general demurrer
https://s3.documentcloud.org/documents/23994770/georgia-v-powell-demurrermotion-to-dismiss.pdf
Judge Kaplan Order on Motion in Limine in Carroll III.
https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.nysd.543790/gov.uscourts.nysd.543790.217.0.pdf
Trump-appointed US appeals judge calls social media ‘dangerous’
https://www.reuters.com/legal/government/trump-appointed-us-appeals-judge-calls-social-media-dangerous-2023-10-03/
Giuliani’s Drinking, Long a Fraught Subject, Has Trump Prosecutors’ Attention
https://www.nytimes.com/2023/10/04/us/politics/rudy-giuliani-drinking.html
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Today, Liz and Andrew tackle the two biggest stories: Matt Gaetz having ousted Kevin McCarthy as Speaker of the House, and Donald Trump’s civil trial in New York. All that AND an Andrew Was Wrong featuring more on the 14th Amendment.
In the Patreon bonus, the two tackle a Liz Was Not Wrong about why Trump doesn’t have a jury trial in New York. Hint: yes you can still make fun of Alina Habba!
Notes
Justice Engoron Order
https://iapps.courts.state.ny.us/nyscef/ViewDocument?docIndex=op8OyfqVHpc6eGTx9LOw3Q==
OAG v. Trump appellate decision
https://iapps.courts.state.ny.us/nyscef/ViewDocument?docIndex=ReQsiVyUL/PE7F5_PLUS_RuqoMw==
CBS News story on Trump conceding to $27 million valuation for Mar-a-Lago
https://www.cbsnews.com/amp/news/trump-mar-a-lago-1-8-billion-own-company-said-it-was-too-high/?espv=1
SCOTUS orders 10/2
https://www.supremecourt.gov/orders/courtorders/100223zor_5368.pdf
Eastman petition for cert
https://www.supremecourt.gov/DocketPDF/22/22-1138/267263/20230519131455424_230516%20PWC%20corrected.pdf
Trump Fulton County docket
https://www.fultonclerk.org/DocumentCenter/Index/142
FC indictment
https://s3.documentcloud.org/documents/23909542/23sc188947-criminal-indictment.pdf
Seth Barrett Tillman, ‘Governor Newsom, Laphonza Butler, and the Constitution’s Plain Text,’ New Reform Club (Oct. 2, 2023, 3:54 PM), <https://reformclub.blogspot.com/2023/10/governor-newsom-laphonza-butler-and.html>;
Josh Blackman & Seth Barrett Tillman, ‘Sweeping and Forcing the President into Section 3: A Response to William Baude and Michael Stokes Paulsen,’ 28(2) Tex. Rev. L. & Pol. (forth. circa Mar. 2024) (posted on: Sept. 12, 2023), <https://ssrn.com/abstract=4568771>.
Is There A Constitutional Right to a Jury Trial of Equitable Defenses in New York?, 74 St. Johns L. Rev. 1 (2000)
https://scholarship.law.stjohns.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=1421&context=lawreview
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Andrew and Liz explain the recent Congressional funding bill, what it means for the country (good things!) & what it means for Speaker of the House Kevin McCarthy (bad things). What’s a motion to vacate? Listen and find out!
Then, of course, the duo return to discuss all the recent developments in the RICO indictment in Fulton County, Georgia, including the plea deal by bail bondsman & former Donald Trump co-defendant Scott Hall. What does it all mean? We tell you!
Notes
Trump Fulton County docket
https://www.fultonclerk.org/DocumentCenter/Index/142
FC indictment
https://s3.documentcloud.org/documents/23909542/23sc188947-criminal-indictment.pdf
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Liz and Andrew record a day early to discuss the breaking news out of state court in New York granting partial summary judgment to New York Attorney General Letitia James’s civil lawsuit against Donald Trump, his kids, and his businesses over phony valuation statements. The upshot is that the Trump businesses will be dissolved as a matter of law.
Mitchell Epner guests to help break down the nuances of New York law and procedure.
It’s not a criminal conviction, but it’s a hell of a start!
Notes
Justice Engoron Order
https://iapps.courts.state.ny.us/nyscef/ViewDocument?docIndex=op8OyfqVHpc6eGTx9LOw3Q==
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Today, Andrew and Liz welcome back to the show National Security Counselor Kel McClanahan to break down a bunch of filings pursuant to the Classified Information Procedures Act, and tell us how to keep our eyes on Judge Cannon!
Notes
Chris Geidner “Law Dork” on the Fifth Circuit
https://www.lawdork.com/p/fifth-circuit-adf-training-book-ban-social-media
CIPA – Appendix 13 to Title 18 of the US Code
https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18a/compiledact-96-456
Trump’s motion for CIPA Section 4 scheduling
https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.flsd.648652/gov.uscourts.flsd.648652.160.0.pdf
DOJ CIPA Section 3 Brief
https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.flsd.648652/gov.uscourts.flsd.648652.162.0.pdf
Nauta/DeOliveira CIPA Section 3 Brief
https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.flsd.648654/gov.uscourts.flsd.648654.163.0.pdf
DOJ CIPA Motion Under Seal in DC ( cover page)
https://www.courtlistener.com/docket/67656604/59/1/united-states-v-trump/
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Liz and Andrew break down the recent indictment of Sen. Bob Menendez plus much, much more.
Notes
Menendez indictment
https://www.justice.gov/d9/2023-09/u.s._v._menendez_et_al_indictment.pdf
McDonnell v. US, 136 S.Ct. 2355 (2016)
https://scholar.google.com/scholar_case?case=7646544289520795258
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Liz and Andrew break down the week’s developments before heading into a deep dive about baseball’s antitrust exemption and a new petition for certiorari filed by… unicorns? Even if you’re not a sports fan, you won’t want to miss this one!
Notes
OA 696
https://openargs.com/oa696-in-which-james-okeefe-pretends-to-be-a-journalist/
Fulton County GA – DA Willis Motion notifying Judge McAfee of potential conflicts
https://s3.documentcloud.org/documents/23986592/23-0920-notice-of-potential-conflicts-of-interest-concerning-attorneys.pdf
Anna Bower, Fake Crocodiles and Fake Electors in Fulton County
https://www.lawfaremedia.org/article/fake-crocodiles-and-fake-electors-in-fulton-county
Project Veritas Suspends All Operations Amid Devastating Layoffs and Fundraising Struggles
https://www.mediaite.com/news/new-project-veritas-suspends-all-operations-amid-devastating-layoffs-and-fundraising-struggles/
Federal Baseball Club of Baltimore v. National League of Professional Baseball Clubs, 259 U.S. 200 (1922)
https://scholar.google.com/scholar_case?case=5457794249908053604
Toolson v. New York Yankees, Inc., 346 U.S. 356 (1953)
https://scholar.google.com/scholar_case?case=1315902585984637212
Flood v. Kuhn, 407 U.S. 258 (1972)
https://scholar.google.com/scholar_case?case=1568944639886480553
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