OA275: Yes, Bill Barr Perjured Himself

Today’s episode covers everything you need to know about Bill Barr’s testimony before the Senate Judiciary committee (and his refusal to testify before the House). Has he perjured himself? (Yes.) Is there a reasonable defense of Barr? (No.) What’s next? Listen and find out!

Also, don’t forget to show up for our monthly LIVE Q&A on our YouTube channel this Sunday, May 5th at 6 pm Eastern / 3 pm Pacific!

We begin today’s show, however, with a few Andrew Was Wrongs and one Andrew Was Right. Wrong? Andrew used “fulcrum” when he should have used “center of gravity,” and it led to this amazing listener graphic explaining the difference. Also, Andrew relied upon a mislabeled graph in a complaint in Episode 273; technically, that’s someone else who was wrong first, but hey.

But Andrew was definitely RIGHT about the RNC platform, and now we have even more evidence to confirm it — this time in the form of the testimony of J.D. Gordon to Mueller’s team of investigators. And we break that down for you (because of course we do!).

Then, it’s time to delve into everything we know about Bill Barr’s perjure-tastic trip before the U.S. Senate Judiciary Committee. Find out why Andrew thinks Barr isn’t going to last, and why he definitely committed perjury. Oh, and figure out what Rule 6(e) is — and why Barr is lying about that, too.

After all that, it’s time for a brand-new Thomas Takes the Bar Exam #124… this time about Decomposing Snail Cola. Decomposing Snail Cola: It’s the Only One With Decomposing Snails!

Appearances

Andrew was just a guest on Episode 194 of God Awful Movies, reviewing the Law’d Awful Movie “Gosnell: The Trial of America’s Biggest Serial Killer.” And if you’d like to have either of us as a guest on your show, drop us an email at openarguments@gmail.com.

Show Notes & Links

  1. Check out the news about Matt Gaetz’s investigation in the Tampa Bay Times.
  2. If you love old-timey law review articles, this University of Pennsylvania Law Review one about Congress’s inherent sanctions power from 1925 is pretty fun! Or, if you’d rather something from this millennium, check out the 2007 Chafetz article we discuss on the show.
  3. The crime Bill Barr has committed is a violation of 2 U.S.C. § 192.
  4. We discuss how this exact same scenario has already played out before in Committee on the Judiciary v. Miers, 558 F.Supp.2d 53 (2008).
  5. AAG Boyd cited this 1982 Reagan memo, but conveniently forgot to cite this 1984 OLC opinion that definitively shows he’s full of it.
  6. Finally, we first discussed the Senate Intelligence Committee Report on Russian interference written by Sen. Burr back in Episode 190.

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OA271: Dis-Barred (?) – The Mueller Report

Today, we break down the just-released [REDACTED] Mueller report. The top-line analysis? This is much worse than we anticipated in Episode 264. This report may not be the end of the road for Trump — but it almost certainly is the end of the road for Attorney General William Barr.

That’s it! We spend nearly 90 minutes delving through the minutiae and correcting the egregious misquotations in Barr’s now-laughable “summary” of the report.

Show Notes & Links

1. You can click here to read the full Mueller report, and here for the searchable PDF.

2. We first covered Barr’s summary in Episode 264, and you can read his laughably dishonest letter again right here. Oh, and we followed up with Prof. Randall Eliason in Episode 265.

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OA265: The Investigation is Over, But the Investigations Continue (feat. Randall Eliason)

Today’s breaking news episode contains a long interview with everyone’s favorite former prosecutor, Randall Eliason, who helps answer some nagging questions about what we do know about the Mueller Report (alongside all the things we don’t).

We begin, however, with a brief Andrew Was Right (about the Barr Summary and the news cycle!) and Wrong (about the specifics of the Assange indictment).

Then, it’s time for our main segment with Professor Eliason; you won’t want to miss it!

And if all that isn’t enough for you, well, we end, as always, with a brand new Thomas Takes the Bar Exam Question #120 involving touching a very sensitive woman on the bus.  As always, remember to follow our Twitter feed (@Openargs) and like our Facebook Page so that you too can play along with #TTTBE!

Appearances
Andrew was recently a guest on Episode 19 of the Glass Box podcast discussing Utah referendums, and Episode 188 of God Awful Movies (reviewing “Dead Man Rising”).  If you’d like to have either of us as a guest on your show, drop us an email at openarguments@gmail.com.

Show Notes & Links

[None]

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OA264: The Barr Summary of the Mueller Report

Today’s emergency, late-breaking episode breaks down the Barr Summary of the Mueller Report and gives you some advance warning that the narrative on the Mueller report is about to shift very quickly in the opposite direction.  Get ahead of the story by listening today!

Due to the length of the breakdown, we don’t have our regular segments today, but we do have (as always), the answer to Thomas Takes The Bar Exam #119 regarding contracts for the sale of wheat.  Can Thomas keep his streak alive?  Listen and find out!  And, as always, remember to follow our Twitter feed (@Openargs) and like our Facebook Page so that you too can play along with #TTTBE!

Appearances
None!  If you’d like to have either of us as a guest on your show, drop us an email at openarguments@gmail.com.

Show Notes & Links

1. This is the Barr Summary of the Mueller Report.
2. Ken Dilanian’s tweet.
3. Glenn Greenwald’s tweet.
4. We discussed disaggregation of the investigations in Episode OA: 259.
5. Confirms the Senate Intelligence Committee report we talked about in Episode OA: 190.
6. Russian Lawyer Natalia Veselnitskaya’s OPEN SDNY criminal trial as of 1/8/2019 for obstruction of justice.
7. Mueller’s NFL report is here.

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OA233: [REDACTED] & Wisconsin

Today’s Rapid Response episode takes a look at two pressing issues: (1) Mueller’s [REDACTED] sentencing memorandum with respect to Michael Flynn, and (2) the naked power grab by lame-duck Republicans in Wisconsin.  Along the way, we’ll also cover a bunch more legal stories, but you knew that already!

We begin high atop Yodel Mountain, where we cover not only the [REDACTED] Flynn memorandum but also Roger Stone taking 5 and a truly bizarre conspiracy theory advanced by Rudy Giuliani.

Then, it’s time for the main segment, in which we tackle Wisconsin SB 887 and its component bills that are designed to weaken drastically the strength of the incoming Democratic governor, Tony Evers.  Is it as bad as everyone says it is?  (It’s worse.)

After that, it’s time for a brief Andrew Was Wrong segment.  Turns out Andrew Was Wrong about both Julian Assange and American paddlefish!

Finally, we end with an all new Thomas Takes The Bar Exam #102 on evidence and the admissibility of hearsay.  Find out how Thomas outsources the decision and more.  And, of course, if you’d like to play along with us, just retweet our episode on Twitter or share it on Facebook along with your guess and the #TTTBE hashtag.  We’ll release the answer on next Tuesday’s episode along with our favorite entry!

Appearances

Andrew was recently a guest on the David Pakman show talking court-packing and more.  Give it a listen!  And, as always, if you’d like to have either of us as a guest on your show, drop us an email at openarguments@gmail.com.

Show Notes & Links

  1. You can read the (non-censored) baseline Sentencing Memorandum filed by Mueller here, and the [REDACTED] Supplemental by clicking here.
  2. Here are the texts of the various Wisconsin bills:  SB 884, SB 886, and the final bill, SB 887.

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OA225: Elections Have Consequences… for Jeff Sessions

Today’s Rapid Response Friday covers the two things that are definitely on everyone’s minds:  (1) the midterm elections, and (2) the fate of the Mueller investigation and more in light of President Trump’s decision to fire Attorney General Jeff Sessions.  Elections have consequences… don’t they?

We begin with a roundup of  the outstanding legal issues in connection with the midterms.

After that, it’s Yodelin’ time.  What happened to G. Zachary Terwilliger?  Is the Mueller investigation in trouble?  What can we do??  Listen and find out!

Appearances

None!  If you’d like to have either of us as a guest on your show, drop us an email at openarguments@gmail.com.

Show Notes & Links

  1. No links this week!

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OA212: Rod Rosenstein and… G. Zachary Terwilliger?

Today’s episode is that rare Rapid Response Tuesday, necessitated by the persistent rumors that Donald Trump is about to fire Deputy Attorney General Rod Rosenstein.  Is it true?  How bad are things if it is?  And who is this mysterious G. Zachary Terwilliger?  You’ll have to listen to know for sure!

We begin by examining the New York Times reporting that predicated the efforts to force out Rosenstein.  Listen and you’ll learn why is Andrew confident that these reports are false — and get a rare “Randall Was Right” segment to boot!

After that, we look to the statutory line of succession if Rosenstein is indeed fired, and we wind up at Noel Francisco and… Sideshow Zach?  How did THAT happen?  Bonus:  Is Francisco a Trump hack?  All signs point to…

Then, we look to the statutory protections for Mueller even if Rosenstein is fired.  Will the entire Russia investigation be fed into a Fargo/Deadpool 2-style woodchipper?

And, if all that wasn’t enough, we also have a mini-deep dive into the Federal Vacancies Reform Act, 5 U.S.C. § 3345 et seq.  Does it matter if Rosenstein was fired or if he resigned?

Finally, we end — at long last! — with Thomas Takes the Bar Exam Question #94 regarding the Forest Service’s new rules.  Remember to follow our Twitter feed (@Openargs) and like our Facebook Page so that you too can play along with #TTTBE!

Recent Appearances

Lots!  Thomas will be at QED in Manchester, UK on Oct. 13 and 14.

Andrew will be debating originalist (and Kavanaugh clerk!) Justin Reed Wilson in Louisville, Kentucky on September 27 at Impellizzeri’s Pizza; to attend, just RSVP on this Facebook link.

Show Notes & Links

  1. This is the first New York Times hit piece on Rosenstein from Friday, 9/21, and this is the follow-up suggesting he would “resign.”
  2. You can, of course, read the 25th Amendment’s Section 4 for yourself; you’ll quickly ascertain that it is, in fact, a ‘clown horn’ argument.
  3. The 28 U.S.C. § 508 sets forth the statutory line of succession for the DOJ.
  4. Here’s the initial Senate confirmation vote on Francisco.  You can also read his “oopsie” letter to the Supreme Court below:
  5. This is the Federal Vacancies Reform Act, 5 U.S.C. § 3345 et seq.  We first discussed it back in Episode 126.
  6. Finally, click here to read all about G. Zachary Terwilliger!

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OA206: Will This ONE WEIRD TRICK Unravel the Mueller Investigation?

Today’s episode takes us back to Yodel Mountain, where we take a look at a popular article making the rounds suggesting that (you guessed it) this ONE WEIRD TRICK might unravel the entire Mueller investigation.  Should you be worried? (No.)

We begin, however, with the rare (but delightful!) Thomas Was Right segment revisiting 3-D guns and the Arms Export Control Act.  What’s going on?  Listen and find out!

In the main segment, we take apart this Politico story suggesting that McKeever v. Sessions hold the key to Yodel Mountain.

After that, we tour what’s left of Yodel Mountain to discuss the latest developments with our buddy Paulie M.  Did he really try to plead out in advance of his next trial?  What’s next on the horizon for everyone’s favorite ostrich-vest-wearing money launderer?

Then, we end with Thomas (and Andrew!) Take the Bar Exam Question #91 regarding the separation of church and state and graduation prayers.  Remember to follow our Twitter feed (@Openargs) and like our Facebook Page so that you too can play along with #TTTBE!

Recent Appearances

None! If you’d like to have either of us as a guest on your show, drop us an email at openarguments@gmail.com.

Show Notes & Links

  1. Here’s the injunction granted in the 3-D guns case.
  2. This is the Politico story regarding McKeever v. Sessions.

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OA204: The Perjury Trap (w/guest Randall Eliason)

Today’s episode welcomes back one of our favorite guest experts, former prosecutor and current law professor Randall Eliason of the Sidebars blog, who will help us break down what exactly a “perjury trap” is — and whether Robert Mueller is laying one for the President.

Of course, when we have a guest this good, we also have to take advantage of his expertise in a couple of other areas.  So we begin by checking in on the news of the day:  Mueller has already reportedly offered immunity to David Pecker, the CEO of the National Inquirer, whom we discussed at great length on Episode 203 in connection with the Cohen plea.

After that, we delve into Rudy Giuliani’s contention that Mueller is laying a “perjury trap” for the President.  Is that a thing?  Is that what he’s doing?  Listen and find out!

After that, we revisit the issue of reporters and confidential sources, where Professor Eliason has been a consistent voice opposing a federal privilege.  Is that a view he still holds?  There’s only one way to know for sure!

Finally, it’s time for the answer to Thomas Takes the Bar Exam, where our intrepid hero tries to inch closer to the coveted 60% mark with a question about torts.  Remember to follow our Twitter feed (@Openargs) and like our Facebook Page so that you too can play along with #TTTBE!

Recent Appearances

None! If you’d like to have either of us as a guest on your show, drop us an email at openarguments@gmail.com.

Show Notes & Links

  1. Prof. Eliason first guested on the show way back in Episode 70.
  2. Here is the link to the NPR interview with Prof. Eliason discussed on the show.
  3. To read more of Prof. Eliason’s work, click here to visit the Sidebars blog.
  4. Here is a transcript of Prof. Eliason’s statement on reporter’s privilege in the age of Trump.

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OA195: Lordy, There Are Tapes!

Today’s Rapid Response Friday breaks down all of a busy week’s developments in the Trump Administration’s trip up Yodel Mountain, including the surprising revelation that Michael Cohen has audio tapes of his conversations with Donald Trump.  What does it all mean?  Listen and find out!

We begin, however, with a challenging listener question regarding legal ethics and summer associates that hearkens back to our last episode.

The main segment tackles an entire week’s worth of yodeling, including the Cohen tapes, the emoluments lawsuit, and the Manafort trial.  Phew!

After that, we check in with our buddy Andrew Seidel from the FFRF about a recent victory in the 9th Circuit regarding prayers at public school board meetings.

Finally, we end with an all new Thomas Takes The Bar Exam #86 involving the questionable sale of a used car.  If you’d like to play along, just retweet our episode on Twitter or share it on Facebook along with your guess and the #TTTBE hashtag.  We’ll release the answer on next Tuesday’s episode along with our favorite entry!

Recent Appearances

None!  If you’d like to have either of us as a guest on your show, drop us an email at openarguments@gmail.com.

Show Notes & Links

  1. Don’t forget to tune in to our live Q&A this Tuesday, 7/31, at 7 pm Eastern / 4 Pacific.  And, of course, participate in the questions thread!
  2. Here’s the Reuters report that there are 12 Cohen-Trump tapes; we’ve heard just part of the first one regarding Karen McDougal, whom we first discussed back in Episode 158.
  3. You can read the Emoluments ruling for yourself; we covered this most recently back in Episodes 160 and 162.  For our original two-part interview with Seth Barrett Tillman, check out Episodes 35 and 36.
  4. Some documents from the Manafort trial:  2018.07.22 Yanukovich govt response2018.07.20 Yanukovich motion in limine2018.07.25 orders on motions in limine; and 2018.07.26 government jury response.  And, of course, you should take a look at the government’s Exhibit List.
  5. We discussed the “Bernie Sanders” lawsuit against the DNC back in Episode 106.
  6. Finally, for some good news, check out the 9th Circuit’s opinion in FFRF v. Chino Valley Unified School District; we discussed Town of Greece v. Galloway in Episode 85.

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