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Thomas: Hello and welcome to Opening Arguments, this is episode 467. I’m Thomas, that’s Andrew, how’re you doing Andrew?
Andrew: I am fantastic, Thomas, how are you?
Thomas: I’m really good. I’m comin’ off, you know-
Thomas: -an amazing episode that we did last Friday. That was super cool, and we’ve got a really cool interview today. We’re gonna be talking to Lawrence Lessig about, you know, getting rid of the electoral college, which is something that I’m pretty sure a very high percentage of our listeners would like to get rid of. Probably in the 99s, percentage wise.
Andrew: [Laughs] We may have some nostalgia fans.
Andrew: We’ve got the hate listeners, we’ve got Uncle Frank, we’ve got that one guy that wanted to keep coming on promoting James Lindsey’s book.
Andrew: But [Laughing] other than that! [Laughs]
Thomas: Yeah. Plus, there have been some people who are genuinely misinformed about this stuff. They have an instinct for institutions, they have, you know, they don’t want to get rid of – they might have a certain fondness in their hearts for like, well, we shouldn’t get rid of these certain institutions that have been around, blah blah blah. But when you look at the facts, this is not something that was intended by the Founders, even. This is not something that is some age-old beloved thing with a time-honored tradition that makes sense, it’s a mess.
Andrew: Yeah. What I love about Professor Lessig is, I mean, he is out there actually litigating these issues, doing something about it.
Andrew: Not just saying “hey – not just us.
Thomas: Yeah, that’s what I’m doing! [Laughs]
Andrew: Hey it’d be really cool! Yeah, me too! To have a constitutional convention, but thinking okay, if we’re stuck with this system what are the things we can do to kneecap it? I love – I can’t wait until we get a chance to talk to him.
Thomas: Well, you’re in luck because we’re gonna hop on over right now-
Thomas: -and talk to Professor Lawrence Lessig.
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