Opening Arguments

Our discussion of abortion continues as we walk through the Supreme Court’s opinion in Roe v. Wade and its aftermath.

In our first segment, “Closed Arguments” continues with a look at whether you should call your law professor by her first name.  (No.  No, you should not.)  And in our closing segment, we answer a question from listener Ben Young III on courts as an agency for change and social justice.

Show Notes & Links

1. Roe v. Wade, 410 U.S. 113 (1973).
2. Read the Wall Street Journal story about the law professor who just wants her students to call her Professor Baughman.

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In Episodes 7 and 8, we discussed a recent decision by a federal court in Missouri dismissing a lawsuit brought by the Satanic Temple challenging certain Missouri laws that arguably restrict abortion rights.  In this episode, we take a step back and look at the right to abortion itself and the sometimes-controversial Supreme Court decision of Roe v. Wade.

Our opening segment answers a listener question from Russ Kanjorski about the future of the Supreme Court, and fan favorite “Closed Arguments” continues with a look at the Cato Institute’s survey and ranking of states by “freedom.”  (Hint:  it has nothing to do with actual freedom, apparently.)

Show Notes & Links

1. Roe v. Wade, 410 U.S. 113 (1973).
2. The Cato Institute’s stupid “Freedom in the 50 States” survey.

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In this episode, we wrap up the recent decision by the United States District Court for the Eastern District of Missouri dismissing a lawsuit brought by the Satanic Temple challenging several laws relating to getting an abortion in Missouri.  Andrew tells you what “motions to dismiss” are, and Thomas proves that he knows more about the law than both the Attorney General of Texas AND a sitting federal judge in Missouri.

Our opening segment begins with another “Closed Arguments,” where we look at the aforementioned Texas Attorney general, Ken Paxton, who has decided to write an opinion letter on the Establishment Clause without referring to the one Supreme Court case that tells you how to interpret the Establishment clause!  In our closing segment, we answer another listener question, this one from law student Jason Burkhead.

Show Notes & Links

1. Andrew’s law firm blog post that explains the basics of standing.
2. The Complaint filed by the Satanic Temple in federal court.
3. The decision by the U.S. District Court for the Eastern District of Missouri dismissing the Satanic Temple’s lawsuit.
4. Hemant Mehta’s discussion of the case on the Friendly Atheist blog.
5. Attorney Marci Hamilton’s opinion that the case will be overturned on appeal.
6. Roe v. Wade, 410 U.S. 113 (1973).
7. The Courthouse News Service reported that the Texas Lt. Governor asked the state’s Attorney General, Ken Paxton, to issue an advisory opinion as to the legality of opening courtroom proceedings with a prayer.
8. This is the text of Paxton’s letter, which is remarkably Lemon-free.

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In this episode, we look at a recent lawsuit filed by the notorious Satanic Temple challenging abortion restrictions in the state of Missouri.  In the main segment, Andrew tells you how to read a Complaint, and Thomas offers advice to the Satanic Temple’s lawyers about which arguments are more persuasive to him.

Our opening segment begins with “Breakin’ (Down) the Law,” where we discuss a catchy legal phrase, “in perpetuity throughout the universe.”  Why would anyone say that??  Andrew explains why.  In our closing segment, we look at a Tennessee state representative, who tells us that everyone knows you should burn those red light camera tickets!  (No.  No, you should not.)

H/T for both the episode content and the “Closed Arguments” segment goes to the newly-married Eli Bosnick!  Congratulations and thanks.

Show Notes & Links

1. The Complaint filed by the Satanic Temple in federal court.
2. The decision by the U.S. District Court for the Eastern District of Missouri dismissing the Satanic Temple’s lawsuit.
3. Hemant Mehta’s discussion of the case on the Friendly Atheist blog.
4. Attorney Marci Hamilton’s opinion that the case will be overturned on appeal.
5. The Knoxville News-Sentinel article about state Rep. Andy Holt, who is encouraging citizens to burn their red light camera tickets.

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In this week’s episode, Andrew sits down in the interviewer’s chair and talks with Chris Kristofco, another real lawyer and the lead editor at Title Town Sound Off, a Green Bay Packers fan site.

If you’ve been following the NFL’s investigation into alleged performance enhancing drugs use by several of its star players, you’ll enjoy hearing Chris’s take on whether this will be a “line in the sand” during upcoming CBA negotiations.  Andrew also pins Chris down on some bold predictions, so if Clay Matthews is suspended on August 25th, you can say you heard it here first!

We answer a listener question from Michael L. Rops, and inaugurate our new segment, “Closed Arguments” with a New York bar that really, really, really doesn’t want to be called out for discriminating on the basis of gender while it discriminates on the basis of gender.

Show Notes & Links

1. Chris’s article, “The NFL’s Latest Witch Hunt Will Cause Labor Issues.”
2. For fun, you might want to check out this NFL player who apparently believes in mermaids but not dinosaurs.
3. Closed Arguments:  The New York Times article that asks, “Is it Legal?”  (No.)

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Finally wrapping up their four-part discussion of the 2000 U.S. Presidential election, Andrew and Thomas follow the Gore campaign’s lawsuit as it goes to the Supreme Court.  How legitimate is Bush v. Gore?  Does it hold water?  Find out in this episode.

Show Notes & Links

1. The Supreme Court’s decision in Bush v. Gore, 531 U.S. 98 (2000).
2. Palm Beach County’s insane “butterfly ballot,” which resulted in thousands of extra votes for Pat Buchanan that were almost certainly intended for Al Gore.
3. The American Political Science Review article referenced on the show which did a statistical analysis of the Buchanan “butterfly ballot” votes.
4. Herron & Lewis’s 2006 political science article showing that Nader cost Gore the election in Florida even assuming no recount.
5. One example of an early media report stating that Bush would have won with limited recounts of the sort Gore was seeking from the Florida courts.
6. More recent studies indicate that if the recount had been allowed to proceed, Gore would have won.

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Continuing our discussion from OA3, Andrew lays the background for the most tumultuous Presidential election in modern American history, discussing the politics, history, and the legal background that led us to Bush v. Gore.

Show Notes and Links

1. Pres. Bill Clinton’s approval ratings, 1999-2000.
2. Voting history for West Virginia, once a reliable Democratic stronghold.
3. A study on exit polling, with emphasis on the 2000 election.
4. The Supreme Court’s decision in Bush v. Gore, 531 U.S. 98 (2000).

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Andrew and Thomas continue their discussion of the 2000 U.S. Presidential election, moving from resurrecting long-dead jokes about “hanging chads” to explaining how the legal challenge that could determine the Presidency began in a tiny county courthouse in Florida.

Show Notes & Links

1. The Supreme Court’s decision in Bush v. Gore, 531 U.S. 98 (2000).
2. Palm Beach County’s insane “butterfly ballot,” which resulted in thousands of extra votes for Pat Buchanan that were almost certainly intended for Al Gore.
3. The American Political Science Review article referenced on the show which did a statistical analysis of the Buchanan “butterfly ballot” votes.
4. Herron & Lewis’s 2006 political science article showing that Nader cost Gore the election in Florida even assuming no recount.
5. One example of an early media report stating that Bush would have won with limited recounts of the sort Gore was seeking from the Florida courts.
6. More recent studies indicate that if the recount had been allowed to proceed, Gore would have won.

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On the last episode of Atheistically Speaking with Andrew Torrez (AS259), Andrew teased us with the promise that he’d be back to discuss what really happened back in the 2000 U.S. Presidential election (and promised that it might have something to do with our current Presidential election)!  Well, Andrew’s back, and in Part 1, he and I discuss the politics, and history of the giant mess that was the 2000 election.

Show Notes and Links

1. Pres. Bill Clinton’s approval ratings, 1999-2000.
2. Voting history for West Virginia, once a reliable Democratic stronghold.
3. A study on exit polling, with emphasis on the 2000 election.

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In this introductory pre-episode, Thomas and Andrew talk about their backgrounds and their vision for the show.  We also preview our upcoming show segments and topics, tell you how to get in touch with us, and talk a little bit about how the show got started.

Segments

1.  Listener Questions:  We field a question from Eric Brewer about the Constitution and the Declaration of Independence
2. “Closed Arguments”:  We look at no-brainer legal “questions” raised by the news media; today, we tackle a New Jersey settlement that allows you to have “8THEIST” as a license plate.
3. “Are You A Cop?”:  We bust debunk legal myths that “everyone knows are true,” but aren’t, like the classic myth that an undercover cop has to answer truthfully if you ask her “Are You A Cop?”
4. “Breakin’ (Down) the Law”:  We define a common (but commonly misunderstood) legal term or phrase.

Show Notes & Links

1. Atheistically Speaking is available here, and Andrew’s first episode was AS225.
2. Thomas and the Bible (“T and the B”) is available here.  Thomas’s recap of the Old Testament is available here.
3. Thomas’s THIRD podcast, Comedy Shoeshine, is available here.
4. Andrew’s legal practice is the Law Offices of P. Andrew Torrez, in Baltimore, MD and Washington DC; the business web page is here.
5. Andrew’s legal blog is here.
6. News story reporting that the New Jersey “8THEIST” vanity plate is no longer banned as “offensive.”

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